Hey, when I export file as obj it only exports as the mtl, is there a problem with the current version?
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Nothing has been changed regarding the export recently. For me (on my mac) it works normally in Chrome and Opera, but not in Safari - the obj is "skipped" as you described. I'll try to find a solution for this issue, but I am pretty sure it's about how the browser handles multiple files downloaded simultaneously.
could you add an option for a minimum hight before parts of the buildings end in a roof, and a room segregation thats not based on roof hight sections please <3
You already have caves, cities, buildings, villages. Any plan to generate interiors (props, furniture, doors etc) of the buildings?
The same building can be furnished "correctly" in too many ways depending on its purpose, historical period etc. So there won't be a universal "interior generator", but perhaps I'll try making something for specific cases such as taverns or small castles.
OK, yes, furnishing has too many choices to make. But can their be rooms and stairs and doors (or just the entrances) like an unfurnished but complete house? in short an empty floor plan for the whole building?
But these mansions do have rooms, doors and stairs. The floor plans are not very interesting (as they just a byproduct of the algorithm responsible for creating exteriors), but... they are there.
Wow, just (re)discovered your work, was already impressed with the medieval city generator but this is great
small question, is it normal that the blue print is missing the randomly generated doors ? you can add new space / door & tower, but can't seem to remove them one already there
anyway, i'll try some more, thanks for the great work
Thanks! I'm not sure I get what you are asking about:) Clicking an empty cell fills it and clicking a filled cell clears it. When you open the context menu over a cell there will be either "Unmark tower" or "Mark tower" depending on whether it's already marked or not. Same with the doors.
Sorry, just getting back to your gen, and again I encounter the same "problem", so i'll try to reword my first post :
When you generate a mansion from scratch, some doors exists, the 3d model and floor plan display them correctly, but the blueprint does not.
What this means is once in blueprint i can force A door on a marked cell, but this does not mean that this will be the only door of the mansion,
when you hit enter, it feels like it generates randomly with a set number of door, and then "adds" marked blueprint door, resulting in mansions with a bit too many doors for my taste
What i thought it would do is use marked cell blueprint first, and if there is not enough opening, add some more during generation. Since the room generator seems perfect, it would allow to make mansions with less openings but more convoluted routes between rooms, ultimately making it more "dungeony" for RPGs (which is what i'm after :) )
Once again, it's already great as is, props to you
It's more complicated than that. A mansion consists of "wings" - rectangular blocks, each with its own roof (roofs are important!). Wings are grouped into "clusters" - sets of wings whose roofs can be merged "organically". When doors are generated, each cluster is considered independently. Depending on the area of a cluster, the generator tries to place one or more entrance doors, but there can't be more than one door per wing. The algorithm picks wings of the cluster one by one trying to spawn doors in them (it's not always possible) until it gets the required number of doors. To spawn a door in a wing the generator first check if there is a "marked" door in that wing. If there is, that marked location is used, otherwise a random valid location is chosen. Sometimes at the end of the process some marked doors are left unused. In this case they are added despite the fact that there are enough doors already.
Why it may be required to have more than one entrance in a mansion? I don't really remember - it was implemented long time ago. Probably I didn't like large mansions having a single inconspicuous door.
Thanks for the detailed answer & insight into how it works !
So if i read that right, by marking an appropriate number of doors, for the size of the mansion, i can at least try to control the layout a bit !
I'll have to look again at the settings, see what may affect wings & cluster generation more finely :D
Hit H to manually adjust style settings. Just thought people should know.
3D is not my thing, but generators like this one make me want to create something "3d-printable"...
Finally, a mansion to accommodate my abundant estate in Decentraland
Wow, this is a great tool to make quick mansions... popped it into Blender, added some simple textures, and in 2 min, you have this. Would have taken me 30 to 40 min to build this manually - and probably would not have looked as great.
Hi, great work =) did you try to import it in Unity? I can't make texture work inside...
Sadly have not had the leisure to work with Unity for a while now :( That said, I suspect you will want ot import it first into a 3d tool (such as blender) and do a bit of work on the model before importing it into Unity - maybe set some default flat textures on the faces for example, then save in a more Unity friendly format (it used to support Blender out of the box way back when - not sure if it still does?)
Hey that looks awesome! You seem like you know stuff. I'm struggling to load the obj file into blender at all. I click import > wavefront > import obj and I end up with I tiny node or something with the file name that can't be scaled. I'm very new to blender if you can't tell haha. Any help would be appreciated.
Is there away to add to or take away from floors? I have things that are on a higher floor than I want.
I'm not sure I get your question. If you need to generate a building with more or fewer storeys, you need to make its plan larger or smaller in the Blueprint mode. There is no way to request a specific number of floors.
I am new to this, I really like it but I have no idea how to return to view after going to blueprint or floor plan. Can someone please help me?
You can switch between these 3 modes (3D view, Floor plan, Blueprint) via the context menu. In Blueprint you'll need to either Submit your changes or Discard them. It is also possible to do (almost) everything using hotkeys.
This is so amazing to me! (I'm unable to make anything that I can't see with my hands, so this is computer magic to me) Thank you for sharing, I really appreciate it and am very excited to have this for future reference.
I like this generator, but I wonder if it would be possible to add options to control, for example, the location of the doors, the number of floors... personally, I would find these interesting updates.
hello, your work is so awsome! I love it. I have a question about a license. I would like to use this generator in part of my product. Do I need a pemission or posssible to use it?
Thanks you! As it's said in the description "You can use images created by the generator as you like…". Permission to use the generator itself as a part of something else depends on the nature of that something and… on many other things. But without knowing details it's rather no than yes.
is there a possibility of making mansions of architectures inspired in other countries around the world?
You're a genius. I really like all your apps. Thank you for your work!
An amazing tool! I was wondering if it's possible to make the context menu able to be opened on the screen? This would make it possible to be used on android/ios
That's awesome! I enjoy rotating the mansion on an iPad so being able to use it fully without needing a keyboard would be great
OK, I've uploaded an updated version. Instead of clicking a special button you need to tap anywhere to display the menu. Please note that for now it only works in the 3D View - you can switch to Floor plan or Blueprint, but you won't be able to get back without refreshing the page.
This is incredible!! I love this generator and your other ones!!
I'm having a hard time getting my interior floor plan to match what I would want it to be as well as how the inside would correspond to how the outside looked. Would it be possible to be able to change the floor plan within the "plain view mode" so you could decide what doors lead where and which rooms would be what?
Nothing like that is planned. You see, there is no separate algorithm for generating rooms inside a building which could be customized. In this generator for any mansion there is a one-one match between its exterior and floor plan. Maybe one day I'll make something more useful for generating rooms from a specific ground plan...
hello! ive been running into some problems regarding the 3d view of the generator, the screen appears a greyish color and doesn't display the 3d model.
What is your os/browser? Does the rest of the app work? Can you switch to plan view for example?
the rest of the app does work, but the 3d view does this weird thing where it starts working but after a little awhile it will turn into the greyish screen. the browser i'm using right now is google chrome.
oooo i'm going to use this so much for minecraft!!! i love architecture and building but i'm not very creative when it comes to it unfortunately (the floor plans feature is especially useful in this case, tysm <3 )
I love this so much and yes very much colourblind friendly. Has been very helpful tool in the short time I used it. need to get use to figuring everything out though but BPs are great!
Great generator, is it possible to add the ability to import mansion plans? Either using the exported JSON or (preferably) URL params? It would be great to be able to load a mansion that was prepped earlier.
I'll try to implement something like this in the next update.
Hi, thank you for an amazing generator!
is there amyway you can make it so that we can export the obj with uvmap and a flat image texture.
im trying to get your models to play nice with tabletop simulator, and even with blender inbetween its a pain as TTS does not suporrt mtl files.
it would be fantastic if there was an option to download the obj with a properly mapped flat image texture so that the colours schemes can be determined and exported straight from your generator.
So if I understand correctly there are 2 issues, both related to using exported OBJ's with TTS, right?
- Flipped normals when OBJ is first imported in Blender and then somehow imported in TTS. Some questions: Do you use OBJ or some other format to save in Blender and load in TTS? Do normals look wrong if you load an exported OBJ without loading it in Blender first? Do you need the Blender step for anything other than scaling a model? I know nothing about TTS but to me it looks like a problem of Blender-TTS interaction, because in three common application (Blender, 3D Viewer, Sketchfab) and one less common I have access to, normals look ok. Yes, this is probably related to the fact that there are many open meshes, but open meshes are not "bad" meshes. At this moment I wouldn't like to fix them - that's too much work (especially in case of Procgen Mansion) and too many triangles which won't be visible anyway. I can try to add normals data to OBJ explicitly, but I doubt this will help.
- TTS does not support materials, so mansions look untextured when loaded. The problem is that I do not use textures in the generator, instead there are solid color for each triangle of the model. Generating a texture is easy, but assigning uv coordinates for each vertex is a bit harder. Maybe I'll implement it in the future.
thanks for your reply, and sorry to ask you to do more work.
to answer your quesitons
Firstly I used a saved .json from MFGC reimported it into City Viewer and downloaded the .obj output.
if the .obj is directly imported to table top simulator the normals are wrong.
The additional blender step was simply me attempting to fix the normals fast and failing. However after further investigation i think i may have been wrong in my initial post.
Either the normals of the basic .obj output are simply inverted, not random - OR its possible that as this was a new .Obj output file that the normals are different to my first file - you would obviously know more about how your code is handling this.
here are the normals of the same .obj after being imported to blender, luckily either with this model or in general, a simple flip of the normal direction solves the issue in TTS. It may be possible that the normals were further screwed up due to me recalculating them, rather than flipping all.
one possible solution to get an object straight to TTS or anything else that is having an issue would be for and option for output from (City Viewer) to have flipped normals?
Procgen Mansion - the models seem to be fine or at least there are no flipped walls etc that I have seen.
Textures / materials
yes I'm aware of the MTL issues with TTS (its a great tool but its also janky as hell and rubbish in many ways) - the issue is currently to get a nice looking model, I have to unwrap the model, assign each different material to an image, then bake the render output to create the texture - its not the end of the world but its just an extra / unnecessary step when I'm wanting the colour output from your generator because it looks good that way :).
an added advantage of having some form of unwrap and basic texture file would be that people could "paint" the models very easily with other textures or materials in blender without having to unwrap the model assign then bake.
i did find this solution that is supposed to solve the .Obj Mtl texture issue.
GitHub - theFroh/imagepacker: Takes a Wavefront OBJ with textures and attempts to squash them into a single texture file.
but unfortunately i could not get it to work for me :/ but maybe looking at it may be of some help ??
finally I just want to say ...
Thank you your generators are amazing and have helped me so much already I cant wait to see what you build next, an integration between MFCG and Procgen mansion perhaps...so we can get cities with all building mapped and models for all, ... one can dream one can dream.... ;)
Sorry that it took me so long to reply to your detailed description of the problem. As I said, I don't specify normals explicitly in obj, they are derived from the vertex order. Yes, I can add an option to reverse that order. Or I can specify vertex normals and that will also allow me to implement smooth surfaces. I'll try both options next time I update City Viewer or Procgen mansion. Maybe I should buy TTS, it's not expensive...
The night time style with lit rooms doesn't light rooms consistently. If you look at corner rooms, often one side will be light while the other is dark, despite being the same room.
Would it be difficult to add a menu for the style options to quickly adjust colors, roof shapes, time, etc?
Any way to download the resulting model(s)?
Not yet. I'm planning to add OBJ export later.
My latest Mansion
Is there anyway to save the file so that you can toggle between the 3d setting and the floor plan?
Thank you for doing what you do! I've donated in the past and I will again!!!
Can only seem to get the blueprint to work. Everything else is a blackscreen.
This means the 3D part doesn't work for you. I don't have a solution for it (it just happens sometimes), but you can try another browser.
Cant seem to get this to work at all - despite no issues with city, village, or dungeon (outside of a few small glitches)
Great job on this. However, I ran into a few glitches:
- I could not get the shift-enter option to regenerate a new mansion from the same floor plan.
- The trees moved and mostly disappeared when I toggled the decorations.
Here's my wish list to help make this great generator even better:
- Generating a cellar or basement level
- Ability to add/delete entrances on the blueprint
- Ability to generate a Grand Entrance on one side of the mansion
- Fireplaces generate connecting to the chimneys
- Style option to generate a hobbit mansion like Bag End
- Style option for half-timbered buildings
I could not get the shift-enter option to regenerate a new mansion from the same floor plan.
Does anything happen at all when you press shift+enter?
The trees moved and mostly disappeared when I toggled the decorations.
The whole scene (including trees) is recreated when you toggle decorations. Sometimes you get more of them, sometimes fewer. Try it several times to get the amount you need.
Generating a cellar or basement level... Style option for half-timbered buildings
That's on todo list.
Ability to add/delete entrances on the blueprint... Ability to generate a Grand Entrance on one side of the mansion
It's probably not too hard to mark entrances on the blueprint, I'll think about it. "Grand Entrance" is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure how it should look (taking style parameters into account".
Fireplaces generate connecting to the chimneys
And that is too hard. Right now chimneys are placed randomly on roofs, but I can't do the same with fireplaces, they would interfere with windows, passages, stairs etc.
Style option to generate a hobbit mansion like Bag End
Can't do it unfortunately (for many reasons). It would be interesting to see a multistorey hobbit mansion...
Does anything happen at all when you press shift+enter?
Actually - it works now. Thanks!
"Grand Entrance" is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure how it should look (taking style parameters into account".
The exterior style shouldn't matter much. The "Grand Entrance" is a room that has a bigger door to the outside (perhaps a double door), and at least one staircase to a higher level. 1
On the outside, it could have a porch, pediment, or pillars to make it more dramatic.
I'm having the same issue voidle is having, the 3D version just shows as a blank black screen for me. Using Google Chrome on Windows 10 Home. My partner is also using Chrome on Windows 10 Home and it worked just fine. No errors in the console as far as I can see.
Is there a way to export the 3d model? Because im not good with architecture.
Yes, I would love to be able to export to 3D! This is the best! You are a Genius!
Yea! Please add a function that does that
Used this before, but now for some reason i can only see the floor panel and Bluprint mode while using chrome. It works 100% on Edge/Explorer, pretty weird
Love this, though I wish we had a French/France style as well
"England", "Italy", "Germany" etc are just names, these style are only distantly related to real regional architecture styles. For example for me "England" looks as much English as French (probably minus the rain). In the future there will be a style editor.
It would be interesting to have the option to change layers in blueprint mode for more control in our custom layouts.
Some buildings look odd, especially the russian snowy ones, because the purpose of steep roofs is to let the snow slide down. But it can't slide down if there is an other wall :-)
Great generators watabou!
It's true for other "styles" as well, because if it's not snow, then it's rain. Well, the algorithm does what it can with a given ground plan :)
The ability to specify what are towers or not is wonderful. Again thank you.
Two things. If you specify at least one tower, could you make it that nothing else other than the marked squares are towers? If no square is marked, then towers as per normal 'random'.
Second, could you do a similar thing for marking whether overhand or not - if you mark one, only the marked are overhangs, otherwise as normal if nothing marked. Sometimes I want the overhangs to be normal, sometimes less overhangs, sometimes in specific places.
Again, this just gets better and better.
Unfortunately, none of them is possible. That is, I don't know a way to implement them with the current algorithm at this moment.
- The idea of the algorithm is to split the ground plan shape into rectangular "wings". Preferably in such way, that they can be "attached" to each other. When there is an unattached 1-cell wing, I turn it into a tower. Otherwise it would look like a small part of the building squeezed awkwardly between its other parts.
- With overhangs it's a bit different (too long to explain without illustrations:)). What I can do, though, is to disable all overhangs. I think it will be added as an option in the next update.
That gives me roughly what I want - in the blueprint, i make sure i have no 1 cell wings unless I want them as towers. And an option for overhangs vs no overhangs would work just fine. Thanks for considering it.