Not sure this is where to ask this stuff but here goes:
Can we get a comprehensive text list of the all your json terrain types ?
I noticed there is no terrain type open (just "") or water (just ""). Is it possible to fill in those with their appropriate types (e.g. "Ocean" and "Clear" when exporting ? Would make map AI easier to work with (suppose I could use a color check of the center of the hex to determine what it is but that gets messy)
It also seems to truncate the grid if there is empty (in this case water) to the right. Can it fully export all the hexes ? I suppose I could smart fill and assume its water but have to be careful not to include open terrain (again kind of messy when the data is already generated somewhere).
As if that is not enough :D, can we get as a future feature (pun intended) the features field to have a class associated with it (e.g. town, danger, wood_feature, mountain_feature etc etc ?) this would make it a breeze to generate some logic for quests, backstory etc etc.
Really love your Perilous Shores stuff. Its really got my creative juices flowing :D
Soon (tomorrow or maybe even today) a new version of the generator will be released, which will export maps a little differently.
Possible values of the "terrain" field are: water, rocks, forest-light, forest-dark, forest-dead, desert, swamp, mountain.
If terrain is not specified for a hex, then it's empty, you can treat it as a plain. I don't see how indicating this explicitly would make anything easier, this would just make files bigger.
I don't think the current version truncates anything, but it doesn't list any empty water tiles. The next version (the one mentioned before) exports empty water hexes with the terrain type "water".
I'll think about your "feature class" suggestion. The problem is that while dangers and settlements are special types of features, everything else is just an area and an area can potentially include different types of terrain.
Awesome ! I'm so close to getting a working model to tinker with once I can implement any changes when massaging the data into my data model.
Now that I think of it, I could just tie the feature back to the terrain type of one of its children hexes (unless its a danger or a town etc) as long as its consistent.
The next question will be what do I do with it when I get this whole thing running....
Love the stuff here- really gets my creative juices going :D
I have a question though:
Is the hex grid using cube coordinates (and not offset) for its location ? I'm toying with the idea of making a fog overlay utility that I can use to reveal only hexes visible to a particular hex (it would reveal the current hex and a partial of any adjacent 6 hexes at a time).
Wonderful ! Then it won't require me to wrap my old head around that.....
May be able to get something done on my android phone. I've got a good dungeon generator I've made in a similar style that allows crawling and I would like a good overland ability to do the same. If I can import the map and its JSON for data I can put a mask over the whole thing, pick a start spot and crawl, exposing the mask as I move along and when I hit a dungeon I can generate it in my program. Might be a little overly optimistic, but it may be worth a shot :D
BTW since you've already got most of the terrain stuff down, why not make a skirmish map generator in the same style ? These are the best set of easy to use tools around.....
What size (in pixels) are the hexes you use and what is the line width (in pixels). I'm making it so that a click the map (im using the standard export PNG) can be converted into a hex coordinate ?
Internally the hex radius (the distance from its centre to any of its vertices) is 50 and the line widths (there are several types of them) are defined in the Style dialog. I don't think all this is very useful because in exported images different values are used depending on the map size.
I'm not sure what being used in video games means, but:
You can use maps created by the generator as you like: copy, modify, include in your commercial rpg adventures etc. Attribution is appreciated, but not required. Please consider supporting this project on Patreon☕!
I can’t say how excited I am for JSON exports. I’ve had to make map builders for my sideprojects from scratch and they always felt worse than your procgen arcana.
It would be great to have a way to undo or a way to see what changes will completely change the map. I really like the idea of this, but after loosing 30min work becasue I didn't know a setting would majorly change things (hex type) it feels like I'm juggling live grenades!
this is the best generator on the planet, hands down, can i put in a request for dungeon icons? if not that is way ok, this thing is the best, am disabled but as soon as i have some extra cash i am going to throw you some to donate towards your work
Hey, I love your work! Can you perhaps share the brushes you are using for trees and mountains (just like the cities and dangers in "perilous icons") please, so that I can modify the maps generated by Perilous Shores in GIMP? I would love to do some further customization and tweaking.
Is it possible to somehow export in layers, in order to have land apart from trees apart from towns apart from labels, etc.? This would help a lot in editing & adding details to the maps later in a drawing app.
It is not exactly exporting in layers, but if you export as SVG, you can (relatively) easily separate different types of objects within an export file.
You can switch to the "scattered" mode by checking "Details > Individual trees" in the context menu or by pressing the i key. When individual trees are enabled, the "Tree density" and "Tree regularity" parameters in the Style dialog affect their look. Cheers!
I love the maps i already generated with this tool. I would like to develope a browser game using a map generated via this tool, but for it to work I need higher resolutions map, such as 16000x16000 pixels, is it possible? eventually i can generate them offline. Of course I will give you credits and support you via patreon. let me know. :)
I managed to export it as SVG, and modify it in illustrator and scaled it to 16000x16000. But doing so mountains and trees are 16 times bigger than they should be, so i should make a grid of 4x4 maps, but it is almost impossible to join them perfectly
I'm not sure I get what your goal is. I thought you just needed your "normal" map in high resolution (256K) and that's what you can achieve by exporting it as SVG, scaling up etc. Of course in this case individual objects become large (in pixels). If you need a map made of a large number of hexes, you can request one in the Region parameters dialogs by entering large numbers in the Size fields, but it can't be larger than 4000x4000 or something like that. And you can do both - generate a large map (4000x4000 for example) and scale it up. It is also possible to make a map look larger by using smaller values as Clutter scale and Town scale in the Style dialog.
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Not sure this is where to ask this stuff but here goes:
Can we get a comprehensive text list of the all your json terrain types ?
I noticed there is no terrain type open (just "") or water (just ""). Is it possible to fill in those with their appropriate types (e.g. "Ocean" and "Clear" when exporting ? Would make map AI easier to work with (suppose I could use a color check of the center of the hex to determine what it is but that gets messy)
It also seems to truncate the grid if there is empty (in this case water) to the right. Can it fully export all the hexes ? I suppose I could smart fill and assume its water but have to be careful not to include open terrain (again kind of messy when the data is already generated somewhere).
As if that is not enough :D, can we get as a future feature (pun intended) the features field to have a class associated with it (e.g. town, danger, wood_feature, mountain_feature etc etc ?) this would make it a breeze to generate some logic for quests, backstory etc etc.
Really love your Perilous Shores stuff. Its really got my creative juices flowing :D
Soon (tomorrow or maybe even today) a new version of the generator will be released, which will export maps a little differently.
Awesome ! I'm so close to getting a working model to tinker with once I can implement any changes when massaging the data into my data model.
Now that I think of it, I could just tie the feature back to the terrain type of one of its children hexes (unless its a danger or a town etc) as long as its consistent.
The next question will be what do I do with it when I get this whole thing running....
I really like all your applications! What software do you use to make these?
Most (all?) of them are made in Haxe + OpenFL.
Love the stuff here- really gets my creative juices going :D
I have a question though:
Is the hex grid using cube coordinates (and not offset) for its location ? I'm toying with the idea of making a fog overlay utility that I can use to reveal only hexes visible to a particular hex (it would reveal the current hex and a partial of any adjacent 6 hexes at a time).
Keep up the good work !
No, it's using "offset coordinates" for two reasons:
Cheers!
Wonderful ! Then it won't require me to wrap my old head around that.....
May be able to get something done on my android phone. I've got a good dungeon generator I've made in a similar style that allows crawling and I would like a good overland ability to do the same. If I can import the map and its JSON for data I can put a mask over the whole thing, pick a start spot and crawl, exposing the mask as I move along and when I hit a dungeon I can generate it in my program. Might be a little overly optimistic, but it may be worth a shot :D
BTW since you've already got most of the terrain stuff down, why not make a skirmish map generator in the same style ? These are the best set of easy to use tools around.....
What is a skirmish map? Is it the same as a battlemap? I personally don't use them, so I don't know what makes a good skirmish/battle map.
Yeah a simple battlemap- A road maybe, some trees, heights, maybe a field or two with a building etc etc. Can base it on the terrain in the overland hex possibilities. Bonus would be conforming it (more or less) to a hexgrid (like the overland). Very handy- I use a generator from another app I made to create these: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lc6kZZr6ZIr2l2mGmNu0jeq7z3NUOdmI/view?usp=drive... and https://drive.google.com/file/d/12GyIy8vO5Qu07BDD4c8_dRuFWl_7d-Ly/view?usp=drive...
Isn't this close enough (with the grid on)?
What size (in pixels) are the hexes you use and what is the line width (in pixels). I'm making it so that a click the map (im using the standard export PNG) can be converted into a hex coordinate ?
Internally the hex radius (the distance from its centre to any of its vertices) is 50 and the line widths (there are several types of them) are defined in the Style dialog. I don't think all this is very useful because in exported images different values are used depending on the map size.
Just wanted to share my appreciation for making these! I used your map generator to help prototype a top-down game idea.
Is this generator allowed to be used in video games? If so, can it be used commercially?
I'm not sure what being used in video games means, but:
I meant using a realm generated by the project, but thanks for the info.
I can’t say how excited I am for JSON exports. I’ve had to make map builders for my sideprojects from scratch and they always felt worse than your procgen arcana.
It would be great to have a way to undo or a way to see what changes will completely change the map. I really like the idea of this, but after loosing 30min work becasue I didn't know a setting would majorly change things (hex type) it feels like I'm juggling live grenades!
I'll probably move these options somewhere else so they don't look purely visual or non-destructive...
That would be great thank you!
Sorry for leaving a comment when I was frustrated.
You've saved me well over 30min, and I really appreciate your work.
👍
this is the best generator on the planet, hands down, can i put in a request for dungeon icons? if not that is way ok, this thing is the best, am disabled but as soon as i have some extra cash i am going to throw you some to donate towards your work
I'm not sure I understand your request :)
Hey, I love your work! Can you perhaps share the brushes you are using for trees and mountains (just like the cities and dangers in "perilous icons") please, so that I can modify the maps generated by Perilous Shores in GIMP? I would love to do some further customization and tweaking.
Thanks!
I'll consider this 👍
Is it possible to somehow export in layers, in order to have land apart from trees apart from towns apart from labels, etc.? This would help a lot in editing & adding details to the maps later in a drawing app.
It is not exactly exporting in layers, but if you export as SVG, you can (relatively) easily separate different types of objects within an export file.
Thanks!
I just love this generator. It's amazing to see it improve and improve. Thanks for sharing your wonderful work!
You can switch to the "scattered" mode by checking "Details > Individual trees" in the context menu or by pressing the i key. When individual trees are enabled, the "Tree density" and "Tree regularity" parameters in the Style dialog affect their look. Cheers!
Sorry I deleted the question on trees, I found out and wanted to save people time :)
Thanks for standing up!
I love the maps i already generated with this tool. I would like to develope a browser game using a map generated via this tool, but for it to work I need higher resolutions map, such as 16000x16000 pixels, is it possible? eventually i can generate them offline. Of course I will give you credits and support you via patreon. let me know. :)
It is not possible to export a map as a 256M bitmap image, but you can export it as SVG and convert to anything you need (and your tools allow).
I managed to export it as SVG, and modify it in illustrator and scaled it to 16000x16000. But doing so mountains and trees are 16 times bigger than they should be, so i should make a grid of 4x4 maps, but it is almost impossible to join them perfectly
I'm not sure I get what your goal is. I thought you just needed your "normal" map in high resolution (256K) and that's what you can achieve by exporting it as SVG, scaling up etc. Of course in this case individual objects become large (in pixels). If you need a map made of a large number of hexes, you can request one in the Region parameters dialogs by entering large numbers in the Size fields, but it can't be larger than 4000x4000 or something like that. And you can do both - generate a large map (4000x4000 for example) and scale it up. It is also possible to make a map look larger by using smaller values as Clutter scale and Town scale in the Style dialog.