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This is fantastic!

I wonder what default settings other people use?

I like the colour scheme of
Outlines 4D3F36
Paper    FFF2CC
Earth    BAB75D
Water    7FD6FF
Rivers   336366
Land-InnerShadow 665033
Water-Waves 83998D
Water-ShallowColor 75EADE
Terrain-Mountain B28459
Terrain-LightWood 96B259
Terrain-DarkWood 63994C

This entire project is coming together nicely! I can see the difficulty of trying to seperate out hills, rolling plains, and sand. All the maps I've generated so far have all made biospherical-sense. (ie. not having a swamp next to a desert unless there's some water nearby)
Very good work, Watabou.

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Can it really be used in commercial projects?

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Yes it can. Unless the commercial project consists more or less entirely of maps generated here (e.g. "50 maps for your D&D campaign" or some similar crap).

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Thanks, great job

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Great update.
I wanted to ask for hills since day 1.

If I can make a suggestion for what working on next: the forest clumps (not "individual trees" visualization) all show identical and are always colored as "light woods". It'd be nice to have the forest regions actually be separate at least in color, if not also with a slightly different pattern for the foliage.

That's on my list. However, apart from figuring how to draw clouds consisting of dark and dead trees, there are some other issues to resolve. For example, what should I do with areas consisting of different types of tree? Mostly likely I will choose the simplest solution whatever it will be :)

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Totally love Perilous Shores! 

Is there a way to display more labels on larger maps? 

I.e. if I export a PNG and zoom it to 100% scale, a lot of the geographical features that do have an associated name in the interactive version (on left-click) are left nameless in the image file... It makes large maps unsuitable for orienting, as most of the reference points / landmarks etc are lost...

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Ideally, it would be great to have a master toggle that shows / hides all map labels, with the user being able to hide / show individual labels for a finer tuning.

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Still love the tool, extremely useful for me as GM. Any plans on the possibility of a "winter mode" with ice and snow? And possible other biomes in the future, such as jungle, desert and so on.

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No plans for a special winter mode because effects like that are supposed to be achieved using style options, here is an example:

With other biomes the idea is the same: for example, if you need a desert map, I suggest to change the "earth" colour to something yellowish or whatever seems appropriate. More style options are planned to be added in the future to make all this more flexible.

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that’s reasonable. I really like the winter theme map you shared, nice!

one thing worth noting as a benefit of other biomes would be tree types, like winy jungle and such.

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great work, just joined your patreon

this would be great for a game that it's map does not show you where you are

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Just to be absolutely clear and above board, I can use these commercially in something, like an RPG adventure or in a fiction book? If so, you just gained a new Patreon sub! :D

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Commercially in something, like an RPG adventure or in a fiction book - definitely 👍

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Spectacular! My thanks. I'd already signed up for your Patreon and shared your site, but well earned. "A man who has done... fine works." :D

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Stellar tool! I wonder though - is is possible to edit the labels?

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Yes, you can do this easily.

Right-click on the feature you want to re-name. You should get a pop-up context menu with the feature's name at the top. Hover over that and you should see an option to Edit. Click that, change the name, click Apply and you're done.

You can also use this to change the size of a settlement (town, village or city) and which nearby settlements it has a road connection to!

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Marvellous! Thanks :)

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thanks! this work is very usefull to play rpg with my wife.

a question... I try to compose the maps (to make a greater map), but it's very difficult to match the coastlines. could you create a representation of the mountains, cities, dunes, etc, seen only from above? that way I could rotate the maps and I would have a lot more variety. thank you very much!

Or an option to rotate the generated map!

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Thank you so much for this wonderful tool!

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Oh and one more thing... can it generate plateaus?

Not explicitly, no. Do you have an example how plateaus would look look on a map of this style/scale?

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I have one question/suggestion...

Am I correct in thinking that the rivers cannot follow roads? I have a campaign with a town in it where a road through the town follows the river, and it looks like your generation algorithm can't ever produce this situation (at least, I tried a lot of times and never saw it happen). If it can't do this, it would be a cool feature, to add some extra verisimilitude I think - paths and roads often build up this way in real life. 

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It’s no like they cannot at all but…

  • They can’t do it really tightly because roads run through centres of hexes and rivers run along their edges.
  • They rarely do it for long. Roads connect settlements and they "try" to be as short as possible (where terrain allows). So for a road to follow a river for a noticeable length, two settlements need to be located at the same river and that river needs to run straight between them.
  • A road following a river is a nice image, but I don't think it happens much in real life. Essentially rivers make roads unnecessary, at least if we are speaking about roads for carts, caravans and stuff, not mere trails.

Your last point might be true (I have no way to verify either way, but I have seen a lot of paths and roads that follow a waterway for extended periods - I expect it was just easier to build a road on the flat near a lazy river, and they would then part ways at some point). However, in the case where a river makes building a road unnecessary, wouldn't you expect the river to connect up settlements?

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This tool is stunning.

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You are doing a wonderful job! Congratulations !!!!!!

1 - Are you planning any updates where it's possible to connect maps in an organic way? 

Sorry for the exemple XD.

2 - While using Perilous I missed a zoom. On larger maps it is difficult to read the subtitles without some kind of zoom.

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2 - If you download the map (Export as PNG), the image will be at the maximum detail possible, so you can use your favorite image-viewer and zoom in and out to your likings.

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I'm using it this way. :D

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Thank you!

  1. I am not, sorry. It's harder than it probably seems. Filling gaps with water, mountains and woods is doable, but stuff like cities, roads and especially rivers makes it virtually impossible. Depending on the required level of seamlessness of course :)
  2. None of my generators has the zoom feature for technical reasons which I hope will be resolved one day. If readability of labels is the only problem, you can use "stickers" - click any map feature to display its name and optional description.
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Cool stuff as always.  :D  

Just lovely to flick through maps and see them.  =)

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Hi there.  This generator is absolutely amazing!  I'm trying my hand at OSR solo play, and find this to be very helpful!  

Question.  Is the upper map size limit 4000x4000?  By chance, is there any way to generate a much larger map?  :)

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Thank you!

4000 is the limit, sorry. This generator is not good at generating maps this big, it's not a "world generator". Also it gets too slow, especially when building landlocked regions.

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Howdy, I am pretty new to the itch community and barely engaged, thus far, but I was just browsing about, just now, when I stumbled into your beautiful work here. Felt I just had to commend you on this gem you are crafting. Very fine work. Good day.

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Thank you!

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Hi, there!

Nice tool you have here. I was considering use it to make maps of a world I'm building for my series of novels on Tapas. In some point it will get commercial (I hope). Is it okay for you (I may credit you in some way)?

Hi! Sure,and as it's said in the description, "attribution is appreciated, but not required".

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Anyway of uploading SVG you worked on and saved so you can add more to it or change it?

Like uploading it back in the generator? No, it is not possible (although you can edit SVGs in Inkscape or Illustrator of course). Currently the only way to get back to a map is to save its permalink.

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This is such a cool generator. Have you thought about using Tolkien style trees, mountains, rivers, etc.

Thanks! Adjusting different style settings can get you close enough to Tolkien's style, unless you need something very specific.

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You're right. The mountains and forests are pretty darn close. What about fonts? I like Tolkien's style for labeling his maps. If one could change the type of font used, that would be awesome.

You can change fonts in the Style dialog (Style... > ... > Text). Any locally installed font can be used, but you need to type in its name manually (vs. choosing it from a list). Area labels (e.g. Mirkwood) will be added in the next update.

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Ok I see that now. Thanks for clarifying. What an awesome feature. Can you change font color too?

Currently it is not possible, but probably I will add a separate color for the labels in the future.

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This generator is wonderful, really love it

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There is a way to add new sites into the map?

No.

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Maybe it could be a nice feature, to add manually at some point on the map a new site.

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This tool’s fantastic, and I like the little variations on some of the icons.

I’ve exported a few to Inkscape. Inkcape filters

If it’s all free, why not stick it under the GPL?

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Thanks!

For me it's more convenient not to provide any real license and just say "I don't care (sort of)". There were cases when I did care and I know no license I am aware of would help me in those cases.

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Well, thanks for making it free. I have an open source TTRPG, so I’ll see if I can use the generated maps.

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Hey I really love the progress you make with all your generators. As I encounter the same issue again and again I would like to ask, if there is an option that no settlements or other points of interest are on the edges of the map. I hace this so often...even the name isn't fully readable. Thank you in advance!!! :D

Could you give me an example (a permalink) with settlements too close to the map edges? This used to be a problem but I considered it fixed. Labels can be obscured by the map edges I guess, I'll look into it. Cheers!

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hey, if it helps, I have an example here
https://watabou.github.io/perilous-shores/?seed=1514430085&tags=peninsula,highland,civilized,barren,neutral

Thanks!

Yeah, this is too close and I'll fix it. Please note, that since that frame is a purely visual element, it is not taken into account when map objects are placed.

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Thank you for posting...sorry I was so bussi :D

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Love the generator, do you have a list of compatible Fonts?

You can use any font installed on your computer. All fonts from Google Fonts that I tried worked for me. Let me know if something doesn't work for you.

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This is awesome. I'm using it to make DM and player's versions (less info but more stylish).  Small sugestion, add an option to make the grid number more readable over objects.

There are some curuious perks. "Hexes orientation" changes object creation/distribution on the map (feature?). "Rugged" has the same effect, but only on "Pointy topped" hexes, not on flat or tilted.

EDIT: Playing with the url to retouch it without generating a completely new terrain. Is there an UX way to do refresh parameters without changing the seed?

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  • You can try customizing hex numbers (Grid > Customize...) to improve readability.
  • Hex orientation affects the generation too much (e.g. the "same" island in different orientations may consist of different number of hexes), so it's impossible to build exactly the same map in a different orientation. It's neither a feature, nor a bug.
  • "Rugged" affecting anything apart from the coastline itself is a bug - I'll look into it.
  • Not sure I get what you are doing with the url. What parameters would you like to change without changing the seed?
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I may be blind, but is there a way to save a map to come back to it later?

Also, I've noticed that when we click on a dungeon to open in 1PDG, the names get mixed up. For example, clicking on the Vault of Kylas on my map takes me to a map of the same name, but with a description that refers to it as "the Abbey of the LeperOracle."

To come back to a map you need to save its permalink. If you use the Arcana version of the generator, you can copy it right from the browser's address bar, otherwise, choose "Permalink..." in the context menu. As with my other generators, most manual changes made to a map are not saved in its permalink, but since there is not much to change in Perilous Shores, it's less of a problem here than in the city generator.

The thing with dungeon names is a known flaw of the integration of these two generators. When a dungeon is opened from Perilous Shores, a random dungeon with a random name is generated (but always the same for a given cell on a given map) and only the title of its map is changed to match the name in Perilous Shores. This will be fixed later.

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Awesome. Thanks for the reply. These aren't major issues by any means. I was just curious about them and wasn't sure if the map naming was a known issue.

These generators are all fantastic and I appreciate having them available to use!

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Im sorry if I sound dumb but is there a way to change the map so its not black and white?

Press ~, 1, 2, 3 or 4 to select one of the preset style. The last one ("Cartoon") is the "least black and white" of them. Use the Style dialog ("Style..." in the context menu) to define a custom style.

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It seems like when I export to PNG, the outline of the text labels vanishes

Yeah, it was the same with the legend. Hopefully I will  find a way to fix it. For now you can try exporting as SVG.

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can you not display the almanac anymore? I've tried everything and I'm stumped
thx in advance, always a stellar job, but I'm curious as to why I can't find this feature

The almanac as a list of "important features" is still there, but since the legend has been removed, it can only be displayed as a set of stickers - ctrl+click (cmd+click on mac) any object on a map. Later all the features of the almanac will be marked with map labels.

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thank you for the reply, I did confuse the Almanac and the legend; I rather liked the latter, but with the display issues it sometimes had, it's probably for the best

in any case, your work is fantastic!

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A feature I would really appreciate is to change the scale of hexes, make them bigger or smaller. Some of the regions I generate are really perfect for the game I want to run, but it's just too many hexes, which gets troublesome if you run with 6 mile hexes, the distances between towns and dungeon sites is a bit too far.

I'm not sure I get what the problem is. This generator produces maps without any assumptions about the size of individual hexes. If there are too many hexes per map, you can choose a smaller map size. If after converting hexes into miles you get too large distances, you can select a different conversion rate (e.g. 1 hex = 4 miles instead of 6). If a specific value of the hex size is important for you (for example, if you need it for calculating travel time or something like that) you can force the generator to spawn more settlements, effectively reducing the average distance between them. Or am I missing something?

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Is there an option for square grid instead of hex? If not, I'd like to suggest that it would be usefull

There is no such option. It's probably not very hard to implement (although cells sharing a vertex but not an edge may produce odd results in some cases), but why would anyone need an overworld map made of squares?

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Understandably this would be a lot to ask but imagine a more 'zoomed-out' generator with full compatability with your other generators, eg: A world generator where you can click on continents to get a perilous shores region generated in the shape of the continent/region.

Also perhaps you could add some non dangerous places of interest. I understand this is for roleplaying games such as dnd but I think it'd be neat to have some non dungeon and non village icons on the map, things like ruins, outposts, and temples don't all need to be dungeons and it would inspire a bit of lore making for the map. Especially if some icons were locations of old battles, holy sites, lone farms and the aforementioned ruins, outposts, and temples dont always need to be a skull on the map that loads a dungeon, they could also be a rumor icon with a short randomly generated description.

nonetheless I have ideas but none of the knowhow or perspective on how hard it is to make something like this so thank you for creating such an awesome tool.

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I may want to make an abstract "world generator" in the future, but in this case I'll try to make it as independent of (while still integrated with) Perilous Shores as possible. I totally get the appeal of the idea of "super-generator of everything", but at the same time I am sure that generators with smaller scope are more useful in practice.

Regarding non-dangerous POIs: that's actually how I imagined them originally, but I couldn't come up with a decently looking icon for them. So they became skull-marked "dangers" with such way-to-easy-to-generate names as "Castle of Doom" and "Prison of The Mad Witch". It's probably too late to change them, but I am planning to embed some small pieces of generated lore into descriptions of geographical features (woods, mountains etc.).

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A small review in Portuguese/Brazil. People here really liked it.


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What Fonts are there to use? I thought google fonts, but I cannot use Grenze Gotisch.

You can use any font installed on your computer. So if you want to use Grenze Gotisch, first you need to download and install it locally.

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is there a way to recover a map you accidently refreshe

Nope, sorry. I would recommend using the Arcana version of this generator (https://watabou.github.io/perilous-shores/). It's identical to the itch.io version, but it doesn't reset the map after refreshing the page (+ it's more convenient to use permalinks there).

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This is super inspirational! The ability to toggle/add every region to the almanac with one click would be fantastic, but I don't see that as an option in this current version.

Thanks! Adding all the regions to the almanac would create a too long list, especially for a large map. Not only it looks bad (both as a legend, and a "sticker board"), but also highlights how imperfect are the generated names. As I wrote in the post about the latest update of PS, I am planning to get rid of the legend in favour of labels. Most likely this will affect the concept of almanac itself, so maybe "add everything to the almanac" feature will be implemented in some form after all.

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Oh, wow! Sorry I missed that post; I appreciate the response. I look forward to your updated works. Keep it up! :)

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Love this, but sadly the save pregen link feature isn't working for me on large maps here or off itch.io. Small thing...but MAN is this great

Apparently permalinks are broken for any sizes other than the default (medium) one. This will be fixed asap. Thanks for the report!

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